millionaires. another reason why the folks in washington should keep on talking. >> really interesting stuff. so, while we have you, robert, let's talk about what we learned on oracle, announcing plans to pay out second quarter, third quarter and fourth quarter dividends this month. what is ceo larry ellison's cut on this? is it $199 million as reported a minute ago? >> it sounds like it's around $200 million. you had that great interview with him where he's talking about his dream of buying the lakers. this might help him do that. $200 million. his tax savings alone on this, if dividends are now at 15% and they go up to over 43%, his tax savings alone, just by doing it this year, over $60 million just on the tax savings. this does make sense for those really big shareholders like larry ellison. >> you know, he's the ceo of the company. so, you know, we could look at him and say, okay, well, he's saving all this money but the savings ripple through, right? >> absolutely. >> if you're a shareholder you're saving a huge amount of money, particularly if the dividend goes to 44%. >> absolutely.